Drums All about Drums and Drum Kits. Ludwig Keystone badge clarification need some help Hey everybody my first post on this forum.
A little while ago I got my first "Real" set. For years I played a 90's Ludwig Rocker, please restrain comments. Apparently the last year in Chicago. So how do I have an 80's "Keystone"?
I have found very few other 80's "Keystones" on the net in my search. Actually just one, an '82 kit also with a clear finish. Do I have a fake? Any help would be great.
Send a private message to Keystone. Find all posts by Keystone. Michael G Silver Member. Ludwig Keystone badge clarification need some help You have Monroe keystone badges on your kit, not a Chicago keystone. Send a private message to Michael G. Find all posts by Michael G. Ludwig Keystone badge clarification need some help Thanks very much, your right.
Ludwig Keystone badge clarification need some help Yes I just use Monroe keystone badge as a general reference, there are kits out there like yours that have "Chicago" Monroe badges. Ludwig Keystone badge clarification need some help Sweet, Still wish I got a 26" bass but it might have been too boomy for my recording needs. Donny Brewer's Hometown Posts: Ludwig Keystone badge clarification need some help I guess you could look at the last Keystone Badges Ludwig used before they left Chicago as Chicago "Monroe" Keystones but since the Chicago, silkscreened gold on gold Keystones came first it could confuse the issue some.
Send a private message to ludwigvondrumcrazy. Find all posts by ludwigvondrumcrazy. Ludwig Keystone badge clarification need some help Yeah, I've seen a few of those 80's keystone Chicago badge drums on e-bay. Send a private message to drumhammerer.
Find all posts by drumhammerer. Ludwig Keystone badge clarification need some help Rest assured, you have the "real deal". Send a private message to harryconway. Find all posts by harryconway. Ludwig Keystone badge clarification need some help Pictures please!! Ludwig Keystone badge clarification need some help I hope this works but here is the closest I could find. Ludwig Keystone badge clarification need some help These are the Keystone reissue Badge Ludwig only made in , to celebrate their 75th anniversary They were the last Chicago produced Ludwig drums, some have a serial others do not, but what is a constant is the Large Keystone Chicago USA Badge on them.
Send a private message to ryctor. Originally Posted by aggie I was also wondering whether the bass drum hoops are original or not because of the silver sparkle stripe. Originally Posted by Supraphonic. Incredible that you should mention it, because last week I actually ordered a new Ludwig Classic Maple in Black finish, and asked to get the bassdrum with silver sparkle inlay on the hoops, because I wanted it to look as vintage as possible, simply because it looks the best. Your kit looks stunning, great buy!
I know the black plastic handles were used in the late 70's as they are on my Vistalite kit from that era. Originally Posted by 3ply. Stick to the Tama info Fezzasus.
The rounded corner badges were used into the early 80's not just From memory I know they were doing some at least by 84 on the 75th anniversary set. Heka, It looks like there is a good chance your pointy corner badge drum may have come from an earlier set and maybe another as well.
There is a fairly big spread in the badge numbers on a couple but that does not necessarily mean anything when it comes to Ludwig. You could guess based on the numbers 1 set from one set, 2 from another and then 2 more from one other. Sometimes the serial numbers were close and sometimes they were not. You never know what could come out the door together with Ludwig in that era.
They just look so much alike, minus the badge and strainer. The badges in this pic look like the normal gold to me. I wouldn't worry about mufflers. Last edited by robotron; at Due to the volume of drums Ludwig was producing at that time in response to the Ringo effect, a lot of badges were used and the bins were refilled as supplies got low. A little while ago I got my first "Real" set.
It doesn't really matter as the drums were basically the same in the late 70's to early 80's. I would lean toward 80 and after for long power tom sizes and 10 lug drums. The catalog was full of them which was probably printed in I wouldn't worry about mufflers. I have some Ludwig's from the early 80's that were never made with them.
This was from a Nickel Plated Ludwig & Ludwig Snare drum. Very early decal on a Ludwig & Ludwig Marching snare drum. The image shows the earliest of Ludwig Snare drums and the badge above. Snare Badges and Finishes for Vintage Snare Drums. Ludwig Drum Company History. Welcome to the Ludwig Drums History section of the web site.
I would say your bass drum is an earlier rounded badge model. Ludwig swapped the badge location to the rear of the bass drum like they still do now during that period. Types of Drum Hoops. Search our web sites! Just follow the links below This web site is connected to a large drum forum related to vintage drums where you could do even more research and or become a member to ask qeustions and learn from people that have been collecting for many years.
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From the back of catalogs. Ludwig Snare Drum Hardware. Shell Timeline - Paint Type. Flyers and Catalog Pages. Ludwig Black Beauty Snare Drum.